Steve, Bill, Rob, David, and ANOTHER STEVE! jump on the metaverse to swap about IoT stuff. Amazing discussion on thought-provoking questions such as, is IoT a hyperscaler gig? Did they get it all wrong (yes, they did. Rob and Leonard said so and friggin’ predicted os back in 2017 at IoT Solutions World Congress)? The gang talks about the need to train a network of SIs that can deliver end to end. Where are they? How do we scale IoT solution delivery?